it was I was strongly ask to choose between "worldy music", in a municipal wind band, nd the truth ! It was between them and "associating with people who don't love Jehovah God".
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What made you walk out on the "Truth"?
by Overrated ini had a legal divorce from my ex wife( law of the land).
i was told not to expect to get remarried because my divorce was not legal to watchtower.. my divorce and situation seem to be a talk of gossip and even a many local needs talks.
i wanted to take some more schooling to get a better job, there was a local needs talk on higher education and it's dangers.
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What Were You or Someone You Knew Counseled For That Was Ridiculous?
by minimus inback in the day, tons of witnesses were brought in the “back room “ to be counseled by elders because of their dress and grooming.
some elders frowned on mustaches or hair that went past a certain point on a male.
women were regularly harassed because their skirt was too long or too short or had a slit on the side.
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I took part as a musician to a "new year concert", as you can see in Vienna each first of January.
An elder explained me that I was a support of the world of the Devil because celebrating the new year was an association with demons.
I tried to explained that it was the same that an "autumn concert" or un "summer concert", where nobody was "celebrating" autumn ou summer... It was just the "moment of new year"... He answered I would be disfellowship if I would participate again. It wasn't necessary... I left them all 3 days after and was never back again.
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We used to say if they dumb it down any more they will have to draw pictures.....
by nowwhat? inwell guess what!
they are using whiteboard animations!😳.
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Whatever Happened To The Flu?
by minimus inhas the flu vanished?
has it been replaced by covid?
no one is talking about making sure you get you flu shots.
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It's the same with terrorism ! All islamic terrorists must have died from the COVID...
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What is the most insensitive thing an Overseer or Elder has ever said and done to you?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhat is the most insensitive thing an overseer or elder has ever said and done to you?
i have had many insensitive things said to me by some elders, but for some reason one self-righteous elder was always on my case.
he didn't like the fact that i missed meetings, didn't like that i never went out in field service, that i didn't answer at the weekly meetings and he didn't like that i carried my books and magazines in my hands and not a service/book bag.
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Another one ! When I met my non-witness wife, an elder just asked me "How can one fall in love with someone who for sure will be kill at Armaggudon ?"
I just asked him if his Creator's already given him the list, with the names...
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What is the most insensitive thing an Overseer or Elder has ever said and done to you?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhat is the most insensitive thing an overseer or elder has ever said and done to you?
i have had many insensitive things said to me by some elders, but for some reason one self-righteous elder was always on my case.
he didn't like the fact that i missed meetings, didn't like that i never went out in field service, that i didn't answer at the weekly meetings and he didn't like that i carried my books and magazines in my hands and not a service/book bag.
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My father died when I was 13. He wasn't a JW but came with my mother and I to the sunday meeting from time to time. Several days later, two elders came to our home and just told us "Now that Simon's passed away, you've got not reason to be so irregular to the wednesday meeting anymore". There were their true words ! 35 years later, I remember it as it was yesterday ! -
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Prove That Jehovah’s Witnesses Do Not Have The “Truth”
by minimus insomeone is researching jehovah’s witnesses.
they happen to come on to this site.
do the witnesses have the truth??.
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John 13:35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
1° there is no true love among JWs
2° where are "everyone" who knows JWs are true disciples of Christ ? Are JWs knows for their love, for their honesty, for their solid family relationship ?
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What is the youngest a child has been baptised as a JW?
by Ultimate Axiom inthe youngest reference i have come across is in the 1992 watchtower (march 1st page 27) - “in the summer of 1946, i was baptized at the international convention in cleveland, ohio.
although i was only six years of age…”.
i would like to find more examples of this, particularly of examples in more recent times.
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My former Presiding Overseer was baptized at 9, elder at 21... He was 100% fanatic and now, achieving the age of 70, he is no more coordinator of the body of elders because he's too old ! He married a girl (aged 15) 14 years younger, who was "offered" by her Elder Father... She died at 48 by cancer. What a sad life ! No children,
And several years ago, he was removed from the Regional Assemblies program because a new pioneer good-looking generation was growing up ! Old men had to leave the place !
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When was your last Kingdom Hall meeting?
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini stopped going to kingdom hall meetings about nine years ago.
i was fading for the longest time, refused to go out in field service, dropped out of the ministry school talks, no longer answered at the watchtower study, arrived at the meetings the last second, and left as soon as possible.
i couldn't take attending the meetings any longer.
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4 years ago, after I was asked by two loving elders to choose between music and my place in the organisation.
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Opportunities you had to give up as Jw?
by Overrated ini could of gone to a two college program.
but gee-hovah didn't like it and my parents wanted me to sling watchtowers and awakes.
it's a good thing i'm in a profession that i can work and pay the bill's and finally left the "trooth "..
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For me, it was exactly 4 years ago. I was caught playing "we wish you a merry christmas" with my wind band and DEMANDED by 2 elders to choose between "Jehovah's organisation" and "my music" with it's worldy members and "pagan works". Even if I would choose to remain in the organisation, I would be "helped for several months" to understand how serious my sin was...
When I left them, I knew I would never be back ! I wrote them a lettre who was not to dissociate but to explain why I would not attend meetings anymore nor share in the field service. I was very attentive to each word I used and then refused to meet 2 elders ou 1 elder with the "circuit overseer" but I proposed to share a good beer with an INDIVIDUAL elder, as friends for 30 years and have a conversation from man to man... THEY refused !
No regret !